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The Ripple Effect

 

Photo on the left is from petroleum engineering days, and the right was taken during my first week at HIG (2017)

I have Odds On to thank for helping me find my tribe at Hill.

Before Hill, with my engineering background, I had become a total nerd about the data around investing. I was obsessed not just with what the evidence said, but with how to build a firm that could give families the best chance to actually put that evidence to work in their real lives.

What I kept running into was that most firms had one or two of the pieces. They could talk about investing. They could talk about behavior and emotion. They could make clients feel cared for. But very few could do all three at once: evidence, behavior and emotion, and real client care through hospitality. I was looking for the holy grail, the island of idealism.

I wanted a firm that could think rigorously, communicate clearly, and help people stay steady enough to actually live out the plan. To really help clients hold onto what matters when markets, life, and emotions inevitably get messy.

I was also, and still am, a huge podcast listener. As luck would have it, I heard Matt on Radical Personal Finance talking about Odds On and the bigger vision behind Hill. Hearing him lay out his and Rick’s island of idealism, and the way Hill thought about evidence, behavior, and serving clients well, was the click moment for me. Hill was not just a firm I admired from afar. It was the firm I would have built myself if I had already built one.

So I guessed at Matt’s email address, sent him a cold email, and the rest is history. I will always be grateful to Odds On for that, because it led me to Hill, to work I love, and to my people.

Take the long view,

Nell

The Book that Brought Me Here

Since my introduction to Odds On many years ago, I’ve always shared the book as a recommendation for people who want to better understand our industry and the way we think about investing. It feels less like a book and more like a note from a friend, or a story passed along by someone you trust. It’s one of the easiest books I’ve ever read, and it’s stuck with me in a way that not many others have.

When I learned we were doing a newsletter issue all about Odds On, I found myself saying to someone on our team, “You know, it’s funny… I hadn’t really thought about this directly, but the book is actually the reason I’m here at HIG today.”

Before Hill, I worked at Dimensional Fund Advisors, a now $1T+ money manager and the pioneer of evidence-based investing. I met Matt Hall through a new study group we were launching, a group of evidence-based advisors we brought together from around the country who all had an interest and aptitude for media and marketing. Odds On put Matt at the top of our list, and he became one of the founding members of that group.

I had read Odds On in preparation for our first meeting, so I had a sense of Hill and its mission. But it was really through getting to know Matt in that group, hearing how he talked about his purpose, the people he works with, and the way Hill cares for clients, that made both him and the firm stand out.

In my role at DFA, I worked with hundreds of advisory firms across the country. It gave me a unique lens into how firms operate; what they prioritize, how they invest, and how they show up for their clients. Hill always felt different. There was a level of care and intentionality behind each decision, a real desire for clients to feel known and taken care of, and a culture of excellence. The kinds of things every firm likely strives for, but not all are able to truly deliver.

All of that made the decision easy when the opportunity to join Hill came along. I get to do work I love, with people I genuinely enjoy, and care for clients in a way that feels meaningful and aligned with who I am (a caring nerd!).

I don’t think I’d be here today without Odds On. So thank you to Matt for writing it. I doubt finding one of your lead advisors 10 years down the road was top of mind when you sat down to write it, but I’m really glad you did.

10 Years of Odds On

In 1999, a book changed the direction of my life.

At the time, I had recently dropped out of law school and was trying to figure out what was next. I was in that phase of life where you have plenty of energy and curiosity, very little skill, and a strong desire to do something meaningful that helps other people.

Around that time, I met Larry Swedroe.

Larry had written a book called The Only Guide to a Winning Investment Strategy You’ll Ever Need. I still remember sitting down with it and realizing that the first 100- pages quietly reshaped how I thought, not just about money and investing, but about what I wanted to do in my professional life. The approach felt more like a calling than a job.

Looking back, I didn’t just discover a better way to invest. I discovered a set of ideas worth dedicating a career to.

Until then, I thought investing was about forecasts, predictions, and confident opinions about the future. Larry’s work introduced me to something very different. It was grounded in data and evidence. It showed that humility, discipline, and a long-term perspective were far more powerful than trying to outguess markets and pick winners.

It felt logical, rational, and deceptively simple to me. It smelled like the truth. And I loved it.

That realization set me on a course that eventually led to the creation of Hill Investment Group.

Years later, when we started the firm, I ran into an unexpected problem. We would give clients books like Larry’s because the ideas were so important, and we wanted them to understand our approach at a deeper level. Unfortunately, many people simply wouldn’t read them. Not because the books weren’t good. They were excellent. However, they were technical and written primarily for professionals rather than investors.

This dilemma got me thinking…and searching. I wanted something that could open the door a little wider for readers. Something relatable, understandable, memorable, and useful.

So I tried an experiment.

Instead of writing a technical guide, I “buried the vegetables” inside a story.

The result was Odds On: The Making of an Evidence-Based Investor. It follows my own coming of age in the investment world, where readers encounter the mentors, lessons, and ideas that shaped the philosophy behind our firm.

A few years after the book came out, I attended a book party on Park Avenue in New York surrounded by other authors. I struck up a conversation with a writer who had created a popular series of illustrated books. After listening to the story of why I had written Odds On, he paused and said something that stuck with me.

“That makes sense,” he said. “You’re a second-ring storyteller.”

I had never heard the phrase before, so he explained.

The first ring develops the idea. The second ring takes that idea and translates it so a broader audience can understand it.

That description felt exactly right.

Larry was part of the first ring. His work changed how I saw investing. Odds On was my attempt to carry those ideas outward in a way that more people could absorb. More real investors, not just practitioners.

When the manuscript first circulated, a few agents told me the book would fail. It wasn’t prescriptive enough. I was warned that most non-fiction business books go nowhere and help no one, especially if the author does not already have a significant following.

Twelve years after writing it and ten years after publication, the story has been far more powerful and interesting than I ever imagined.

The book has traveled widely. It has been read by students, investors, and advisors across the country. It eventually made its way to the Netherlands, where it was translated into Dutch. Along the way, it sparked conversations, friendships, podcast interviews, speaking invitations, and thoughtful notes from readers around the world.

In many cases, the book became the first handshake between us.

Some readers eventually became clients. Some became collaborators and friends. Some changed the investing philosophy of their entire firm. A few even joined our team.

And in a way, the book changed my life too. Not because of copies sold or opportunities created, but because of the relationships that have grown out of it. Over the years, we’ve received more trust, gratitude, and kindness from long-time clients than I ever imagined possible. Compliance rules prevent us from sharing testimonials, but I can say this: the real riches have come from the people.

What began as an attempt to explain a philosophy ended up creating something much more meaningful: a community of people who believe in taking the long view.

Ideas move through rings. Someone discovers them. Someone translates them. Eventually, someone passes them forward.

That ripple effect is what we’re celebrating in this month’s journal.

Ten years after publication, we’re looking back at the journey of Odds On — the ideas behind it, the unexpected places it traveled, and the people it connected us with along the way.

And if the ideas resonate with you, perhaps the next ring starts with something simple: share the book with someone who might benefit from it.

Take the long view,

Matt Signature

 

 

Matt Hall

 

Featured entries from our Journal

Details Are Part of Our Difference

David Booth on How to Choose an Advisor

20 Years. 20 Lessons. Still Taking the Long View.

Making the Short List: Citywire Highlights Our Research-Driven Approach

The Tax Law Changed. Our Approach Hasn’t.

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